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They probably think kind of people looking to buy this, who don’t already have one, will already have USB hubs / Ethernet connections etc in place. Removing these connections from this model reduces price, reduces complexity, and reduces SUPPORT CALLS! :)
I agree. For me personally I don't want to share the (already limited to PCIe 3.0 x4) bandwidth for the GPU with USB devices. Only a few cases use dual TB3 controllers to avoid this. (See the "TB3 ctrl" column in the table at https://egpu.io/best-egpu-buyers-guide/ ) I much prefer a slightly cheaper GPU-only case like this one. If we get Thunderbolt with PCIe 4.0 (TB4?) in the future I would be perfectly fine with a single cable solution for added convenience.
PCIe 4.0 won't change a thing with Thunderbolt. Right now, it doesn't even use all 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes its given (32Gbps given, ~22Gbps used). The rest is wasted on a static DP allocation - even when no DP signal is present - and DP is unidirectional only, anyways.
Thunderbolt needs to be fixed, first, to allow an actual 40Gbps bidirectional. As it stands, that figure is impossible (it's really only about 32Gbps down at the max [PCIe with 10Gbps USB3], with 40Gbps up [DP + whatever]). Then it needs to allow PCIe data packets to take over more of Thunderbolt's datastream. Only then, will PCIe 4.0 even help.
Why egpu enclosure is so expensive? Compared to regular msrp of pc components, they should already get healthy profit at $200 ( $50 case and cables + $100 gold psu + $50 small pcb)
Extremely low volume, I'm sure. See the entire mITX scene and 500 unit volume "discounts".
Nobody honestly buys these enclosures, which is a shame.
Perhaps this market needs an established manufacturer to sell these at-cost or lower for some "exposure" (a la the OnePlus Strategy). Otherwise, these will forever remain niche.
A bit of a chicken and egg problem, too: "the price is what the market will bear." Rich people who have money for TB3 laptops also have money for $300 TB3 enclosures.
Nobody buys them because it's a tiny market that actually needs them.
Someone who needs a dGPU, but cannot get a good one in a laptop (Mac users). Doesn't have access to cloud/local network GPUs for work (this includes graphical applications, too). Doesn't have a desktop and needs marginally portable GPUs (barely more portable than a mITX desktop - sometimes less portable, as in the case of this eGPU enclosure - less portable than a laptop).
In the end, the main market is Mac users who find the internal GPU too weak (small market) or people who want to game at their desk, without using a desktop or a gaming laptop (even then a gaming laptop usually provides better CPU performance to use with the eGPU).
I tried the eGPU route. It's far too limiting in terms of portability, ease of use, and convenience to even bother with. People only use eGPU if its somehow the only choice. It's not the most convenient, nor is it the most efficient use of money.
As someone who has done a bit of looking through Chinese manufacturer websites for decent ITX cases, yes you can buy one for $20 but it will be generic non-GPU capable. When you start wanting one that includes space for a GPU too, the $20 cases become noticeably poorer quality. Moving up in quality and looking for the better reviewed cases, you start approaching $100 quite quickly.
Pretty much zero market size for this type of equipment exists at the moment. Anyone making a purchase is going to have to absorb low volume production price hikes as a consequence.
For that price you think they could support the full 100W PD. I mean if you are doing 85W that is 4.25A @ 20V. You already support 20V output so support the full 100W (5A @ 20V)
I'd love to see a tower-sized Thunderbolt enclosure that supports multiple simultaneous peripherals, including a 5.25 and 3.5 bay, even if it cheats with a second connection.
I don't get why no relatively cheap external GPU cases came up in all these years since it was made for the first time. It's just some metal (or even plastic), weak PSU, cooler (maybe) and a bridge from TB3/USB-C to PCI-E. Not even really a bridge afaik - TB3 and some implementations of USB-C have PCI-E lanes inside.
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darckhart - Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - link
So from the name, do we assume this uses Titan Ridge?ashleysguy43 - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
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No usb hub as part of it, pity jsut a singular TB3 to PCIEx3 case with one large capacity PSU.Tomatotech - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
They probably think kind of people looking to buy this, who don’t already have one, will already have USB hubs / Ethernet connections etc in place. Removing these connections from this model reduces price, reduces complexity, and reduces SUPPORT CALLS! :)AdditionalPylons - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
I agree. For me personally I don't want to share the (already limited to PCIe 3.0 x4) bandwidth for the GPU with USB devices. Only a few cases use dual TB3 controllers to avoid this. (See the "TB3 ctrl" column in the table at https://egpu.io/best-egpu-buyers-guide/ )I much prefer a slightly cheaper GPU-only case like this one.
If we get Thunderbolt with PCIe 4.0 (TB4?) in the future I would be perfectly fine with a single cable solution for added convenience.
jeremyshaw - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
PCIe 4.0 won't change a thing with Thunderbolt. Right now, it doesn't even use all 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes its given (32Gbps given, ~22Gbps used). The rest is wasted on a static DP allocation - even when no DP signal is present - and DP is unidirectional only, anyways.Thunderbolt needs to be fixed, first, to allow an actual 40Gbps bidirectional. As it stands, that figure is impossible (it's really only about 32Gbps down at the max [PCIe with 10Gbps USB3], with 40Gbps up [DP + whatever]). Then it needs to allow PCIe data packets to take over more of Thunderbolt's datastream. Only then, will PCIe 4.0 even help.
zamroni - Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - link
Why egpu enclosure is so expensive?Compared to regular msrp of pc components, they should already get healthy profit at $200 ( $50 case and cables + $100 gold psu + $50 small pcb)
ikjadoon - Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - link
Extremely low volume, I'm sure. See the entire mITX scene and 500 unit volume "discounts".Nobody honestly buys these enclosures, which is a shame.
Perhaps this market needs an established manufacturer to sell these at-cost or lower for some "exposure" (a la the OnePlus Strategy). Otherwise, these will forever remain niche.
A bit of a chicken and egg problem, too: "the price is what the market will bear." Rich people who have money for TB3 laptops also have money for $300 TB3 enclosures.
jeremyshaw - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
Nobody buys them because it's a tiny market that actually needs them.Someone who needs a dGPU, but cannot get a good one in a laptop (Mac users).
Doesn't have access to cloud/local network GPUs for work (this includes graphical applications, too).
Doesn't have a desktop and needs marginally portable GPUs (barely more portable than a mITX desktop - sometimes less portable, as in the case of this eGPU enclosure - less portable than a laptop).
In the end, the main market is Mac users who find the internal GPU too weak (small market) or people who want to game at their desk, without using a desktop or a gaming laptop (even then a gaming laptop usually provides better CPU performance to use with the eGPU).
I tried the eGPU route. It's far too limiting in terms of portability, ease of use, and convenience to even bother with. People only use eGPU if its somehow the only choice. It's not the most convenient, nor is it the most efficient use of money.
skaurus - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
Chinese manufacturers usually don't have problem with this. But I can't find a single model on Aliexpress.One Two - Sunday, May 31, 2020 - link
Try R43SG. A (partly) DIY egpu solutionTomatotech - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
That case is more like $100. Getting a nice custom case made in small quantities to a high standard isn’t cheap.Tomatotech - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
As someone who has done a bit of looking through Chinese manufacturer websites for decent ITX cases, yes you can buy one for $20 but it will be generic non-GPU capable. When you start wanting one that includes space for a GPU too, the $20 cases become noticeably poorer quality. Moving up in quality and looking for the better reviewed cases, you start approaching $100 quite quickly.PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 1, 2020 - link
Pretty much zero market size for this type of equipment exists at the moment. Anyone making a purchase is going to have to absorb low volume production price hikes as a consequence.TheUnhandledException - Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - link
For that price you think they could support the full 100W PD. I mean if you are doing 85W that is 4.25A @ 20V. You already support 20V output so support the full 100W (5A @ 20V)Galgomite - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
I'd love to see a tower-sized Thunderbolt enclosure that supports multiple simultaneous peripherals, including a 5.25 and 3.5 bay, even if it cheats with a second connection.skaurus - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
I don't get why no relatively cheap external GPU cases came up in all these years since it was made for the first time. It's just some metal (or even plastic), weak PSU, cooler (maybe) and a bridge from TB3/USB-C to PCI-E. Not even really a bridge afaik - TB3 and some implementations of USB-C have PCI-E lanes inside.